mobilefreedom
02-21-2010, 04:04 PM
1)Partial ban on smartphones. This is covered in another thread.
2)Ban on being able to use new Verizon prepaid devices unless activated for six months on Verizon prepaid.
3)Flawed Verizon esn banned devices data base overlap.
Answers:
1)All banned smartphones can be flashed to Cricket or other byod networks or resold as Verizon postpaid or other Verizon byod mvno stock if clean Vz esn. Other Verizon mvnos are not affected by this policy. It is a PPC in house policy .
2)Verizon prepaid devices can be flashed to Cricket or other byod networks or used on Verizon prepaid as originally intended. Some report bypassing by calling PPC CS and having them do a direct activations. Dealers will refuse activation to prevent losing their dealer code. Other mvnos are suspected to be affected by this policy.
3)Bad/Flawed Verizon banned devices database set up. Devices that read "clean" on checks with Verizon come up not being able to activate and are put on hold with PPC. This is random and devices that fail include devices not covered by the first two bans. Fortunately, it has been reported to be a very small amount (Less then 2% in one sample of 400 successful and 6 failed activations).
It is random and impossible to predict until after the fact though. The best way to guard against this is to get a Page Plus dealer to switch your new device esn to an older device that's got an active account to see if the esn is banned. This ban knocks out devices that aren't stolen, not from the other bans , not lost, account owed or other wise blacklisted from the Verizon database so there is uncertainty what causes this other then Verizon did a sloppy job implementing a blacklist with PPC/possibly other mvnos.
PPC has had its byod policies so messed with lately (particularly connected to Verizon), that it has really damaged their reputation, especially among dealers. A lot of users too.
Still hope the smartphone partial ban will be lifted but not holding my breath. The prepaid ban definitely won't be and the random esn ban problem will probably linger on for quite a while too.
2)Ban on being able to use new Verizon prepaid devices unless activated for six months on Verizon prepaid.
3)Flawed Verizon esn banned devices data base overlap.
Answers:
1)All banned smartphones can be flashed to Cricket or other byod networks or resold as Verizon postpaid or other Verizon byod mvno stock if clean Vz esn. Other Verizon mvnos are not affected by this policy. It is a PPC in house policy .
2)Verizon prepaid devices can be flashed to Cricket or other byod networks or used on Verizon prepaid as originally intended. Some report bypassing by calling PPC CS and having them do a direct activations. Dealers will refuse activation to prevent losing their dealer code. Other mvnos are suspected to be affected by this policy.
3)Bad/Flawed Verizon banned devices database set up. Devices that read "clean" on checks with Verizon come up not being able to activate and are put on hold with PPC. This is random and devices that fail include devices not covered by the first two bans. Fortunately, it has been reported to be a very small amount (Less then 2% in one sample of 400 successful and 6 failed activations).
It is random and impossible to predict until after the fact though. The best way to guard against this is to get a Page Plus dealer to switch your new device esn to an older device that's got an active account to see if the esn is banned. This ban knocks out devices that aren't stolen, not from the other bans , not lost, account owed or other wise blacklisted from the Verizon database so there is uncertainty what causes this other then Verizon did a sloppy job implementing a blacklist with PPC/possibly other mvnos.
PPC has had its byod policies so messed with lately (particularly connected to Verizon), that it has really damaged their reputation, especially among dealers. A lot of users too.
Still hope the smartphone partial ban will be lifted but not holding my breath. The prepaid ban definitely won't be and the random esn ban problem will probably linger on for quite a while too.